Episode 166 Transcript
Heather Porter (00:02.051)
Jason, thank you so much for being on the show. We have so much to talk about. Thanks for being here.
Jason Wisniewski (00:07.188)
Thanks Heather, thanks for having me today. I'm excited for this.
Heather Porter (00:10.03)
Before we chat about some tips, because I always like to start with tips and then learn a bit about you, I just want to congratulate you on your award. Will you please tell everyone what you just won?
Jason Wisniewski (00:21.23)
Thank you so much. Yeah, so I was just, I got the award for 40 out of 40. So that's in South Australia through the in daily. Yeah, it was pretty amazing. I didn't expect to even make it to the top 40. So to be considered as a top 40 amongst so many amazing people was pretty insane. But yeah, not only that, I actually went on further to win the category for myself, which was for...
The Sustainable Business Leaders Award. I actually have it right here. It's a big... Yeah, it's actually on the table, so... It's so heavy.
Heather Porter (00:56.826)
Yeah? Oh, there's the award, you guys. If you're watching this, he's holding it up. It's so good.
Heather Porter (01:09.334)
well, we're going to find out why you got it. Obviously there's very good reasons behind that and we'll, we'll learn about that, but I want to know, like you, you have a lot going on, like clothing, music, this amazing business, which we're going to talk about in a minute. So your family, like you, do you have three kids, four kids, something? Okay. A lot, a lot happening. So how do you, how do you keep saying, like, what are a few tips that you can share on managing everything in your life? So you actually have time to live your life.
Jason Wisniewski (01:25.858)
Yeah, three kids.
Jason Wisniewski (01:37.518)
Yeah, yeah, of course. It's really important to have really good systems. know, automate things as much as you can, spend that time to do some research, but also delegating. So, you know, when you're running businesses, you really need to make sure you can delegate. A lot of people have that fear of, you know, thinking people can't do the task as well as them, but you just can't, you really can't do everything at once. So you need to make sure that you become, you know, the person that builds the systems for your business, your life and everything.
not become the system. So a lot of people will fall into that trap. Yeah.
Heather Porter (02:13.41)
How did you get there? when you, when you had to, cause you have quite a big team, I know I'm one of your businesses. how, how do you constantly do that? Because that, that's a lot of pressure to transition from doer to leader. Like what are some tips around, around that?
Jason Wisniewski (02:26.126)
Yeah, I think it's making sure that you're paying attention to the detail of what you're doing. So, you know, obviously I went from support worker to team leader to, all kinds of things until eventually starting Varnicare. And I was always learning. was, you know, I never thought I was an expert in anything. I was always taking everything in, listening to people who gave advice, tips, and also, you know, knowing what I wanted. So it was good for me to experience those different roles.
and to know what other people would want. So when I stepped inside of my company, I already built a lot of connections from the ground up. So naturally people just followed me and was a lot of it was word of mouth, but paying attention to the small details, I think really helped. A lot of people when they get into a management role or in their business, they just lose sight of everything. They forget why they did it.
they forget what it was like to be on the ground level and you there's always that divide and I've made sure that I always keep that in mind so it's always helped me to connect with everyone else.
Heather Porter (03:34.786)
Yeah, that's good. And what about juggling your projects because you are doing quite a few things. How do you decide where to put your time in a day?
Jason Wisniewski (03:37.858)
Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (03:44.876)
Yeah, so it is really important because early on when I was starting, I did get burnt out and I couldn't switch off. Work was everything and it was affecting home, my home life. So learning to switch off, prioritizing, making sure I spent, I set time to go to the gym, that's important for me. Making sure I spend time with the kids, doing family time.
Even if just sitting around at the table having dinner together, talking about everyone's day, making sure you set out time. And I've got three kids, so juggling one-on-one time with those as well. But it's important. You realize you've actually got enough time in the day, but people just don't realize how much time they're wasting. When you break everything down, you can actually achieve a lot in your day. It's really up to you. So I found just making sure I manage everything, using my calendars, using...
as much tools as I can because I do struggle with ADHD as well. So sometimes I can get carried away and distracted very easily. So utilizing the tools is definitely helped me.
Heather Porter (04:52.97)
That's good. That's good for me to know. know that ADHD hyper super focus and like you're probably in your brain already darting off into five conversations right now. right, tools, tools then what are a couple tools or apps or things that you use to to help?
Jason Wisniewski (05:01.134)
It's insane. Yeah, it's insane.
Jason Wisniewski (05:08.654)
So one of the big ones I find that's really useful is Notion. So it's like your one stop, it's like a big, I guess you can have everything in there, like all your, I actually have all my businesses all on different pages so can just jump through, click on links, you can automate projects and stuff so I can set up projects where if it's done it will automatically send off an email to the right person to check it for me. It's great. It does take a bit to set up.
Heather Porter (05:36.782)
Motion.
Jason Wisniewski (05:38.306)
but it was definitely worth it for me. Obviously, chat GPT and all the AI tools, a lot of people, especially in the disability industry, are scared of it. They don't understand it and they're avoiding it, if you really spend time to learn what it can, because it can definitely benefit you in a lot of different ways in all industries. So use it, find out what you use for your industry.
just even if it's just sending a quick email because you know a lot of times people send off an email and they're not sure if it sounds right they get people to check it for them you can literally do that one second with the chat gbt so don't waste time
Heather Porter (06:16.334)
Yeah. It's like a good, it's such a good sounding board, right? And it can consolidate your thoughts and yeah, that's really, really helpful. So, I do want to start to talk a little bit about your businesses, plural, cause you have a few. but before we get there, where did you start professionally? What, what, what was that? What did that look like for you?
Jason Wisniewski (06:20.354)
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, 100%.
Jason Wisniewski (06:27.726)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (06:37.446)
yes sir it was actually three bionic a say it was you i never had the intention to start a business it was just more i was just passionate about what i was doing and i really wanted to change also passionate about seeing change in the industry and it took some time and i realized after you just complaining and so i'm like you know what i don't think this is going to help is not going to change actually have to be part of this change
So, you know, I started looking into it and I realized that I need to make that example, you know, maybe people will follow. So naturally, I already had people that were looking up to me as a leader anyway in the industry. So when I did this, people just naturally followed me. And because I was so curious about the red tape, there's so much red tape in the disability sector here in Australia. And I just didn't understand it. So when...
I went off on my own, I realized that a lot of the red tape that was there wasn't actually, it didn't need to be there. It's just because some industry or some providers just set that there for their own protection or whatever. now realizing that these clients are real people, just like you and me, they've got real goals, treat them like a human first, and people could see that difference. We had a young man,
who he was in at 21, he's never been out, know, out to town, know, night out. He's never experienced that. And he's always had other disability companies who have been like, oh, you know, we're not gonna do that because it was too risky or whatever. But you know, that's a real thing. We all do that. We all like to go out, enjoy ourselves. So we did, we enjoyed that. We set it up for him. You know, we had two workers out with him. He went out, he had a great time. You know, he met some people.
Heather Porter (08:21.316)
Totally.
Jason Wisniewski (08:31.406)
Obviously, you we didn't drink anything, but we made sure he was safe and he had a good time and he thanked us so much for that. He's never had that before. So that's the sort of things that we did and people in the industry could see the impact that we were having. So it started to take off really quickly.
Heather Porter (08:39.161)
Wow.
Heather Porter (08:49.784)
What you mentioned at the start around the change, like you wanted to bring change to the industry. What are a few of the key things that you saw that needed to be changed?
Jason Wisniewski (08:56.067)
Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (09:01.198)
So when I started, I was about 19, I was one of the only males actually working in the industry. There was hardly any guys. So I found that very odd because I actually really enjoyed what I was doing. I felt like I was in a position where I could make a difference, I can help people, and that's what I was passionate about doing. So one of the things I used to do was actually get the word out. They used to talk to people that I thought were similar to me, that I thought would be good mentors, and I was talking to them about this.
Heather Porter (09:06.794)
okay. Right.
Jason Wisniewski (09:29.89)
and everyone's like, yeah, yeah, sounds cool, sounds cool. you know, only now, there's a huge shift where a lot of people are doing support work or are in this industry now, because they've realized the impact that they can do and what type of work this is. But back then, you know, it was mainly middle-aged women, you know, other nurses and stuff, and, you know, great workers, but they had more of like a motherly effect, know, a motherly approach.
Heather Porter (09:58.158)
Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (09:58.222)
So their focus was usually on cleaning, cooking, which obviously is important. But then my clients would look forward when they see me because they knew we're going to go out, we're going to go for a drive, we're going to have a fun time, we're going listen to music, sing, whatever. So those real stuff that they look forward to because they're at home every day. And you might see them once or twice a week. But for them, they're there every day. So sometimes you can be the one thing that they look forward to.
Heather Porter (10:10.554)
fun.
Jason Wisniewski (10:28.972)
So you can make a real impact.
Heather Porter (10:31.674)
So describe what in your own words, like your elevator pitch, what does your company do?
Jason Wisniewski (10:38.67)
So we do provide obviously disability support, community access, in-home supports, but we try to make it a different, know, a point of making a difference where we are focusing on goals. like I said, we're not just there to tick a box, because other people will look at the client and stuff and just to make other stakeholders or the system happy to get things done. But for us,
We look first at our clients, what are their goals, their real goals, like I mentioned before about the previous client. And if you do that, the other stuff will just come naturally anyway. So that's what we've got a big focus on.
Yeah.
Heather Porter (11:22.658)
So when you meet with your clients, do you actually, is that part of the process? Do you actually talk about what they want in life and day to day? Is that part of it?
Jason Wisniewski (11:29.218)
Yeah, yeah, so another thing, like another way that we do stand out a little bit different is, you know, we are flexible, not only with, sorry, clients and everything, but with our staff as well. So we have a different model where staff will come on board, they will tell us what availability they have, what they can work, whereas other companies will just give you a roster. So if this is what you're working, don't like it, then tough. So the staff are happy.
Heather Porter (11:56.175)
Right.
Jason Wisniewski (11:58.638)
And then what we do is we create a staff profile and we send it out to the client. So the clients have a choice as well. They get to pick who gets to work with them. And we may suggest or whatever who might be a good fit. But generally it works both sides. Then we organize a meet and greet. So that way the client does have choice and control. They can actually see who's going to work with them. Because a lot of the time in the industry, the clients just get
Heather Porter (12:19.085)
Okay.
Jason Wisniewski (12:28.366)
they don't even know who's coming. So they get anxious about who's going to turn up to their house. They have no idea. They might not even like the person. They might not even get along or even be able to talk to the person. So that happens too much.
Heather Porter (12:30.233)
Right.
Heather Porter (12:40.964)
Wow, Jason, that's, there's, I don't know if you ever heard about the company Zappos, they sold shoes and then they were bought up by Amazon and their whole, their whole like mission was selling happiness. It wasn't selling shoes. That's what makes, you're making me think of that, right? You're, you like genuinely care about the people you're looking after. Like in a, yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (12:53.895)
Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (13:00.718)
I think that's what makes a difference because if you look, especially now, there's so many people that are coming from other industries that have nothing to do with disability support, a chicken shop or something, and they're coming into disability because they think, oh yeah, it's just another business, but they're not passionate about what they're doing and they don't realize the impact and how much you can have on a person. So us having that approach, it does make a difference.
Heather Porter (13:14.468)
Right.
Heather Porter (13:18.233)
Right.
Heather Porter (13:25.465)
massive.
Jason Wisniewski (13:30.882)
because you're not just, like I said, ticking a box. You're making those genuine human connections with these people. And that, if you do pair the right person with a client, it actually can make a lasting effect, can actually help that person to achieve their goals just because you found that right person. Yeah.
Heather Porter (13:49.401)
Yeah, and took the time to actually work out what their goals were in the first place as well. God, it's beautiful what you're doing. How many people are on the team now?
Jason Wisniewski (13:53.836)
Yeah, that's right.
Jason Wisniewski (14:00.29)
So we've currently got 120 support workers. yeah, it is a bit amazing just to think about it, because it's been about four years and it's just grown so quickly. But because we just so like fixed on what we're doing, just, yeah, the number doesn't really matter. But yeah.
Heather Porter (14:03.098)
Wow.
Heather Porter (14:09.465)
Yeah it is.
Heather Porter (14:21.018)
I bet when you were a support worker back at the start of this, the younger version of you would have never in your wildest dreams imagined what you would have about to build and then you just got an award.
Jason Wisniewski (14:30.349)
No.
Jason Wisniewski (14:33.674)
No, not at all. Honestly, I was just happy to get a job and work in something that I was happy to do. Because I've been in industry for about 13 years now, so when originally started. So yeah, I was young, didn't really know. And then it kind of just, I think at one point, my whole team that I was working with left, or they got moved, and all of a sudden, I was only there for six months, and then I became the senior. So everyone was looking at...
Heather Porter (14:38.754)
Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (15:02.316)
looking up to me for all of a sudden, I've only been there for six months, and I just naturally kind of stepped up. And I think from that moment, it just carried me across the industry.
Heather Porter (15:13.21)
Wow. What do you think the future of your industry is going to look like? I'd imagine you're going to be part of that, by the way, and wear that heads. But what would you like or what are your hopes for the industry?
Jason Wisniewski (15:17.889)
Thank
Jason Wisniewski (15:24.99)
yes sir the india s is evolving very quickly you they are making changes there's a lot of negativity right now special link in your people complaining the cuts in everything that's happening right now it is a lot and there's a lot of businesses that being affected unfortunately you have to make sure you're being proactive you know we we knew this was coming
It's not a surprise that this was going to happen. We all knew this was going to happen. So one thing we've always been forward thinking, we've always made sure that we are doing strategic planning that actually matters, not just ticking the box again, ticking the box. But we made sure our systems were good, utilizing the tools like AI. Only recently now, it's being forced on other providers now to start using it. They're telling them you have to use it now.
Heather Porter (16:07.128)
Yeah, yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (16:20.974)
But we were using this two years ago. it's just, we already have a good understanding, so we're utilizing it as much as we can now. But to our benefit, yeah.
Heather Porter (16:33.966)
When you say you're using it, like, and now other providers are being asked to use it as well, like, do you use it beyond writing an email? Like, are there lots of other ways you use it? Mm-hmm.
Jason Wisniewski (16:44.408)
There's so many ways. For example, most clients have different systems and tools that you gotta prepare or trainings and stuff that you gotta set up. An example, we have a client that they wanna learn how to use or catch public transport. So you gotta break that down into steps for them because they've never done it. They've got a lot of anxiety.
Heather Porter (17:06.81)
Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (17:13.07)
so it's a big task for you gotta break it down. So if you think about something that you gotta create, that's gonna be good to show that client and explain it to them as well. It might take two, three hours just to type something out, make it look pretty or whatever, but if I just put in the keywords, create public transport training program, six to eight weeks with a breakdown, I'll put it in ChatGBT, it'll give it to me three seconds or whatever.
and it may not be perfect but at least it's given me the base and that time that has taken, just cut three hours, I can have it done within 20 minutes. I can use that information, transfer it over, make it look pretty and then again, if I feel like the language is not great, I can then say, reword this in simple English so then I can show it to the client so they can understand it lot better.
Heather Porter (17:51.631)
Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (18:08.59)
So if people utilize it for things like that, it's really going to help. And quoting, so we have to make sure our quoting is correct when you're billing. So people have different systems that do it for them, or they have, but you can literally set it up through ChatGPT to have it done for you as well.
Heather Porter (18:12.633)
Yeah.
Heather Porter (18:17.891)
Okay.
Heather Porter (18:28.42)
Very smart use of the tool for sure. Very smart. Thank you for sharing that. I want to change gears a little bit because you, as if you didn't have enough to do already, you have a new business. Magnetic shirts. looked, I had to go see what it was and I loved, it looked amazingly simple. The men's shirt. Tell me more. When did this business start and why, why this business? Why are you doing it?
Jason Wisniewski (18:33.294)
Thanks
Jason Wisniewski (18:42.392)
Yes.
Jason Wisniewski (18:52.31)
So, you know, I'm just passionate about the work that I'm doing in this industry and I'm always looking for things to help my clients or people that I work with. And I came across it one day on the news about a 17 year old boy who was going to high school and he was going for his graduation and there was like a Ferrari sort of formal wear sort of type place that custom made a shirt for him. had cerebral palsy.
Heather Porter (19:19.0)
Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (19:19.086)
So they custom made this shirt, but it was just the top few buttons that they had custom made for Magnus, just so he was able to close those buttons himself. And something about that, I just kept thinking about it and I was like, man, that's amazing. I just kept thinking about all of my clients that would benefit from that, just having the ability to close their shirt. Something small that we take for granted. I actually contacted the place and they told me, we just do it.
Heather Porter (19:41.466)
Wow.
Jason Wisniewski (19:49.038)
custom and if you wanted something like that it'd be like 300 bucks. I was like okay that's not okay that's way too much. I just kept thinking about it and it just people were just saying to me I spoke to my wife and my personal trainer at the time because he had some experience with clothing and he's like you should do this man this is amazing so
Heather Porter (19:55.748)
Yeah, this is crazy, yeah.
Heather Porter (20:11.972)
Right.
Jason Wisniewski (20:15.054)
The more we chat, I was like, you know what? I think he's the perfect person to help me with this. We got together, we did a plan. It was a bit trying to find the right shirt. We had, I think, seven or eight samples that went really great. The magnets weren't strong enough or anything. So we wanted to make sure that the shirt is a good product. The clients can feel good, or anyone who's wearing it feels good wearing it. Good material.
Heather Porter (20:19.311)
Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (20:42.848)
It doesn't look like something that's made for people with disabilities. So that's the other thing is people don't understand. No, they don't want to be singled out. They don't want a special product just for them. They want, you know, we thought a shirt that's going to help them, but also them fit in. So this shirt is for everyone. I wear them myself because it literally takes one, this 90%, 97 % cotton and 3 % spandex. So it's got a bit of room, but it's actually really comfortable.
Heather Porter (21:01.43)
Looks good. Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (21:11.362)
really nice material, high quality, but you feel good in it. you know, one second and then the shirt's done. And when you come home from work, straight away off.
Heather Porter (21:20.948)
off. And it looks so stylish on your website, like the way you've put it together and the positioning of it, looks absolutely brilliant. Like I'm thinking, you know, what's this trend that I missed? Cause it looks like it's made for everyone. The way you like what you said, it's important. Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (21:28.92)
Yeah. Thank you.
Jason Wisniewski (21:34.294)
Yeah, that's the idea. We don't want people to feel like they belong in a certain box, that everyone's the same level, and that's what they want. So we only just started, but yeah, it's really... So the planning has actually taken a year. It took so slow to get the manufacturing, the samples, everything done, but we only just launched three weeks ago.
Heather Porter (21:39.224)
So good.
Wow. So, yeah, I was just gonna say, when did you start?
Okay.
Heather Porter (21:56.399)
Wow, okay, you got the award. You have this new business. Wow. And I have to piggyback off of that with two other questions. you are now also doing stuff in the music sort of cocktail bar scene as well. what is going on, Jason? Okay, let's talk about the music side. What's going on with that?
Jason Wisniewski (21:58.998)
You
Jason Wisniewski (22:14.774)
Yeah. So, yeah, it is crazy. So I think just it's really just like a domino effect. Really, once you start picking up the pace with things, these opportunities just seem to come to you. I think people just recognize and they just look to you and then these opportunities just come. So that's what's happened with this music. That's just something just recently that's just come through to me. You know, one of my friends, he he was doing music and he actually started
doing really well and it took off, he even got into the States. But he didn't have the support, he didn't understand the business side of things, he got stressed out and he stopped. And when I started talking to him and he started telling me about this music, I was like, oh yeah, I've heard people, anyone could do music, whatever. And I started listening to it, I was like, oh my God, this is amazing. And I was like, why aren't you doing this? And I just, I kept thinking about it, said to him, you need to do this, you need to do this, stop.
Heather Porter (22:43.343)
Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (23:09.166)
doing what you're doing, you need to do your music. And then he started thinking about it, he came back to me and says, goes, honestly, you've actually sparked my passion again for music. And then he kind of hinted to me about managing for him. It was kind of funny, but I wasn't sure if he wanted me or not. But then later he actually just asked me. And said, honestly, man, you need to just ask me. And I said, yes, yes, of course. And then, yeah, it's just.
Heather Porter (23:30.382)
Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (23:36.512)
something new and it's been exciting. And I've already learned so much about the industry. And like, cause I already have, you know, passion about music. I'm not, you know, an artist or anything like that. I can't play anything. But I just, yeah, I seem to have a sound for music and I really, and he noticed that. it's already, he's already launched his new single that's coming out on the 4th of July. And he just, yeah, he thanked me because he said he honestly wouldn't have been able to do it without me.
Heather Porter (24:04.1)
What's the name of the group?
Jason Wisniewski (24:05.87)
uh... so he he calls himself to cut it s uh... but because he's actually really talented he's complain any instrument uh... you can see any genre so he actually is looking at trying to change to another one but we're looking at that later but yeah it's uh... six o'clock times
Heather Porter (24:24.194)
Yeah, you, it's amazing.
what you do. And I'm hearing a couple of things from what you're saying. Obviously you've developed a really strong business head. You stay really grounded with all levels of the business and all roles, great systems. You use AI, but you have something else. You have a really beautiful way of, think, promoting hope. And that's probably through your goal setting. And I can tell it's such an important part of, you know, really helping people beyond what the business does, quote unquote. So I'm not surprised you're helping him in this way.
Jason Wisniewski (24:27.927)
Thank
Jason Wisniewski (24:51.32)
Yep.
Jason Wisniewski (24:56.238)
Thank you.
Heather Porter (24:56.976)
I want to know a few more things. So if you think back to yourself a year ago, so in the middle of winter, Southern Hemisphere are in Australia, June last year. What do you think you've done exceptionally well in the last year of your life?
Jason Wisniewski (25:14.42)
I think I've had some really...
Jason Wisniewski (25:21.144)
I changed my way of thinking because I'm so passionate and I do care about people. At times that would get me down a lot because I feel like I'd let people down or I wasn't doing enough to help. But then I think I started reflecting a lot and just I can't fix every problem. I can't please everyone. And if I just focus on myself and try to...
Heather Porter (25:31.149)
Okay.
Jason Wisniewski (25:49.518)
Stay away from the negativity. Because there is going to be toxic people that unfortunately they're not going to be happy for what you're doing. They might be jealous, but there might be some things underlining there. So I never take anything personal from people. If they want to reach out for advice, I'm always happy to share any advice to people. So I just found that being more open, making sure my systems were good, being organized and fitness as well, that's really...
been important for me because I did let that slip last year or previously and it really affected my mental health. just making sure, you know, I go to the gym regularly, part of my routine, that I'm spending time with my kids because that's important as well. Because, you know, that used to really stress me out and I used to think about it constantly, like, you know, I'm letting my kids down, I'm not spending time with them. And it would hold back my work because while I'm working, I'm constantly thinking about the kids. So...
Heather Porter (26:20.441)
Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (26:47.914)
Really just prioritizing and planning everything has really helped. And I think any of the advice for myself was just to not let those things get to you, you know, what people thought, because it did.
Heather Porter (26:53.594)
Got it.
Heather Porter (27:00.814)
How do you do that too? And I know especially, so there's a lot of people in my life with ADHD too, and I know that that specifically can affect. So, but how do you do that? How do you actually do that and not let it take it so personally?
Jason Wisniewski (27:15.016)
it is, it is hard because people with ADHD, they're constantly thinking about those things. Yeah. and I still, I still struggle, you know, I'm looking, if I'm out, you know, is it okay what I'm wearing? Is my shirt fine? Like, do I smell weird? Like these thoughts are constantly running through my head. but I think because I've been focusing so much on my goals and things have been busy, I think people with ADHD, when you're busy, actually are happy.
Heather Porter (27:16.602)
You
Heather Porter (27:21.592)
The mistakes, yeah, all of it, yeah.
Heather Porter (27:32.175)
Yeah.
Heather Porter (27:41.636)
Okay.
Jason Wisniewski (27:44.706)
So you keep yourself busy, keep setting goals because that was the other thing is early days I didn't set enough goals or big enough goals. I just, I achieved the goal so quickly and then I was like, what's next? And I was just in this weird space and I really got down from that. So just keep myself busy. Cause it doesn't matter. Like when you, when you got all these things happening, you know, awards or whatever, like it doesn't matter what people say. You're not really affected by it as much.
Heather Porter (28:11.854)
No, not at all. Most people are too busy thinking about themselves anyway, right? So you do quite a few different things. And I guess my next question is for people that are listening to this or watching this as a video and they want to know more, or maybe they have people in their family that could use your help as well. Where do they go to hang out with you or learn more about your businesses?
Jason Wisniewski (28:16.715)
Yeah, that's it.
Jason Wisniewski (28:25.358)
Thank
Jason Wisniewski (28:38.336)
So we do have, obviously I've got my LinkedIn profile, I've got my Instagram. We do have our website, IvanaCare. But honestly, I'm always open to having a chat to anyone. I've had already so many meetings with people and I'm always happy to share advice and tips and just reflect on any of my own mistakes that may be beneficial for others.
Heather Porter (28:44.92)
Yeah.
Heather Porter (28:59.268)
beautiful.
Heather Porter (29:04.344)
Yeah, amazing. We have all the links you guys in the show notes so you can find Jason on his different websites and his socials and his LinkedIn and, and yeah, keep an eye on what he's up to, especially in his space because he's, you're making change in a really, really important, good way in the world. So look, yeah, it, it's true. It's true. I mean, look at what you're doing. It's, incredible. So
Jason Wisniewski (29:08.758)
Amazing.
Jason Wisniewski (29:24.738)
Thank you.
Heather Porter (29:31.798)
As we wrap up, one last question for you. Is there any last words of advice, something that you'd like to leave our listeners with?
Jason Wisniewski (29:39.532)
Yeah, I think everyone has these goals that they have for themselves, but some people, don't really seem to value those goals as much, or they think, you know, I'll never achieve that. I think you really need to know that everything that you want is valid, and you should be able to achieve what you want. So never downplay your worth. You need to really reflect, appreciate what your value is, but also make sure your habits reflect what your goals are.
So if you wanna get ripped, you do need to go to the gym, you do need to eat healthy, it's not just gonna happen. And you need to really focus on the outcomes because that's when you'll start to see change. People always talk about what they're going to do. Anyone can do that. But you really need to focus on those outcomes. Just drown out the background noise, just focus on what you're doing and don't chase those fake applause because it really means nothing.
Heather Porter (30:11.992)
Yeah. Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (30:39.49)
And just, yeah, don't get caught up chasing trends. And make sure you stay in your lane. I mean, I'm doing so many different things, but. I think they all kind of tie in together anyway. I've sort of matched where I've been carrying and it's sort of how I've connected and gone, met all these people. So I think really just stick with what you're good at and know, or find someone that is good at that particular thing. If that makes sense.
Heather Porter (30:48.964)
Yeah.
Heather Porter (31:00.078)
Yeah.
Heather Porter (31:07.651)
Yeah, that makes sense. That's a whole checklist of things we could do. This great. thank you so much for being here and sharing a little bit about your journey and what you're up to and how you're making change in the world and how you're still somehow keeping sane and having time with your kids. I'm amazed. I'm amazed at you, Jason. Thank you for being here.
Jason Wisniewski (31:10.07)
Yeah.
Jason Wisniewski (31:26.094)
No worries, thank you so much for having me.
